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#228852 - 03/09/08 06:42 PM 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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#228853 - 03/10/08 01:24 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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10" anything just dont cut it....
not enough bass....either use a Sub with them or bigger speakers w/woofers upwards of 15"+ where frequencies go down low you gotta push air

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#228854 - 03/11/08 05:41 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Just sold a customer a FBT Amico 500, which is a 300 watt 15" woofer, 2 5 1/4" with tweeters at 80 watts a piece, and multi channel mixer with fxs. All included.

It sounded incredible, but was not very loud,just very musical, i was very happy with the big sound from such a small compact package.

I'll have to use it on a couple of jobs before I can give you the complete thumbs up
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#228855 - 03/11/08 06:07 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Frankie have you demoed the bigger Amico packages also?

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#228856 - 03/11/08 07:26 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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I agree!! That is why I have the powered FBT 300 watt 15" sub. It is small and light. The inputs are balanced with High Pass filter outputs. The balanced outputs from the PA1XPRO, IMO, do make a difference!!

Nothing takes the place of a Powered Sub!!!!

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#228857 - 03/12/08 04:13 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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DNJ,

I have not tried the bigger system, but if the smaller Amico 500 is just a smaller package, than wow.

It's hard to explain in words, but the nice big open sound coming from the combo of a 15" to5 1/4 is pretty smooth. the highs were very smooth and not bitey.

Of course sound is in the ear of the beholder so to each is own, I am more of a sound quality than sound quantity so this is just my opinion.
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#228858 - 03/12/08 05:17 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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FBT is definity Top quality gear...
I have never heard any different about them.
Frank thanx for the replay

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#228859 - 03/12/08 07:03 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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What organization or magazine provided this test. It looks very interesting thanks.

I am definitely interested in the FBT now. Because of space and weight considerations (because I do so many small scale gigs) I cannot consider a heavy loudspeaker. But the FBT speaker tested weighs just 5 lbs. more than my JBL Eon10 G2 and beat out Mackie's 10" loudspeaker too.

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#228860 - 03/12/08 12:29 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Note, of course, that the most expensive speaker won the test (or close to it) and that the Mackie came a very close second...

While FBT and Mackie may be a close price comparison in Europe, over here (US) the FBT is nearly $300 more (60% more) than the Mackie. A close second, with that kind of price advantage seems a no brainer, particularly as they are VERY easy to find and service, here.
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#228861 - 03/12/08 04:10 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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How much do the Mackie's weigh. I got an email from a dealer offering the FBT's for $599 apiece including free shipping! If anyone wants, I can forward it.

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#228862 - 03/12/08 04:55 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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SRM350v2 weighs 26 pounds.

The SRM350 makes a good floor monitor, and the sound dispersion is relatively wide for a conventional speaker, somewhere around 90-degrees. I couldn't find the weight specs, but I believe it's about the same as the V2.



If I were in your shoes, especially with smaller jobs, I would take a serious look at the Logitech Z-5500 system. There are loads of folks throughout the world using them now, mainly in small nite-club and restaurant jobs, and the reviews have been fantastic. And, you surely cannot beat the price. This will likely trigger a series of bull-shit posts about cheap computer speakers, and how much air you have to push to get good bottom end. Therefore, I suggest that if you look at the Z-5500 system, purchase it, or any other sound system, from a retailer that has a liberal, cash-back return policy--not someplace that provides store credits only. If you don't like what you hear, then you can take it back for a full refund.

Good Luck,

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#228863 - 03/12/08 08:13 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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I own the Logitech Z-5500. I just don't want to be bothered with all of those wires and cables.

So the Mackie's look like a good alternative to the Eon10 G2 as well. The JBL's are the lightest at 23 lbs.

Beakybird

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#228864 - 03/13/08 05:13 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Ive usd th emackie 350's but also needed tp use a sub with them...10" speakers dont have enough bottom.

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#228865 - 03/13/08 05:20 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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shoot me an email,

I'm a dealer for Mackie, FBT, RCF, DBTechnologies.

The mackies previous to the V2s had a bunch of problems, the original series were made by RCF, but then mackie took them over to China to make and that's when things got bad, supposedly the new V2s have addressed all the issues and are back to the qualtiy most people remember Mackie for.

The FBT/RCF stuff is usually more money, but you do get more for it. Fit, finish, overall sound quality, parts are manufacturing are done in-house in Italy. The distribution center for FBT is in Connecticut and the RCF is in New Hampshire.

I've sold the old Mackies (didn't like) FBTs and RCFs. Once I get my hands on a V2 Mackie I can give you the total scoop.

All manufactures will honor their products if there are problems, the better companies usually don;t have many
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#228866 - 03/13/08 07:23 PM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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The FBTs have the best specs as far as bottom end. Do people actually experience that as far as sound?

Beakybird

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#228867 - 03/14/08 07:02 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Beaky its not rocket science.....
10" woofers is just that 10" woofers....
put a 15" next to it and the difference is staggering.

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#228868 - 03/14/08 07:12 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Yes, all things equal, simple physics,

15 will move more air and go lower than a 12
12 will move more air and go lower than a 10
10 will move more air and go lower than a 8

But now if you take a 15" discount speaker like maybe a inexpensive Behringer, or other off-brand, it will never sounds as good or go as low as a 12 maybe even a 10 of a very hi-quality brand.

Amplifier
Speaker
Cabinent
Design

All these things have a factor also
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#228869 - 03/14/08 07:28 AM Re: 10" FBT Powered Speakers vs the others
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Obviosly you get what you pay for ....
don't skimp on quality gear when it comes to sound reinforcement.....after doing your research its imperative that you PLAY YOUR GEAR through what ever sound system YOU choose....DO NOT listen to anyone's opinion as it is way too subjective, as the results will lead you thru Computer speakers through top of the line Powered speakers & KB amps, etc, USE YOUR own ears to decide if it is FOR YOU & YOUR STYLE of Music & YOUR Needs...

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